In response to Meghan Markle’s podcast revelation that she has just lately started to “get what it’s like to be a black woman,” CNN host Don Lemon said he was “shocked.”
He complimented the Duchess of Sussex for speaking out against “colorism,” but he also noted that she was speaking from a position of privilege since, prior to her marriage to Prince Harry, she “did not have to deal with racism.”
Wednesday morning, Lemon said to his colleagues co-anchors, “I admire Meghan Markle for going there, even if it is a little alarming that at 30-some years of age, she is just realising what it’s like to be a black woman in America.”
In response to Meghan Markle’s podcast confession that she has just lately started to “get what it’s like to be a black woman,” CNN host Don Lemon said he was “shocked.”
In the second episode of her Archetypes Spotify podcast, which is a component of Meghan and Harry’s $21 million agreement with the streaming giant, the Duchess of Sussex made the remarks.
Markle, whose black mother Doria and white father Thomas are split, said that when Carey first entered the music industry, she first thought, “Oh my god. Someone that resembles me. She’s mixed like me,” she said, adding that she was the celebrity’s “fangirl.”
“You are not considered as a black lady since we have light skin.” You are not seen as a lady of colour. She said to the singer, “You kind of fit in between.”
If there was ever a period when my race was more in the spotlight, it was when I first began seeing Prince Harry, according to Markle.
After being regarded as a mixed woman up until that point, “things truly altered,” and I began to comprehend what it meant to be treated as a black woman.
But a mixed lady, Carey said, “is a fascinating thing. I always felt it should be OK to say that, like it should be OK to say that, but people want you to select.”
On Wednesday morning, CNN’s “New Day” co-anchor Brianna Keilar asked Lemon to react to Markle’s remarks, recognising that he had previously talked extensively on the subject of “colorism.”
She seemed to be arguing that because of her privilege, she was exempt from the law since it never happened to her. Right?’ stated Lemon.
In the second episode of her Archetypes Spotify podcast, which is a part of Meghan and Harry’s $21 million agreement with the streaming giant, the Duchess of Sussex spoke with Mariah Carey.
She was a mixed-race female. Really, nobody knew how to respond to her. She didn’t get the full Black treatment because folks weren’t sure if she was, you know, black, but they also didn’t know if she was black or white.
He said, “I believe most African-Americans probably looked at her and thought, “Oh, I know that’s a black lady,” but I believe the greater society may not have understood it.”
However, she comes from a position of privilege and was not exposed to prejudice until she wed a white guy. And she’s getting all this attention and all this criticism,” Lemon said.
“And all of a sudden she realised or comprehended what it was like to be a member of a group of people that were discriminated against, particularly women in this nation or in Europe.” Therefore, I believe it opened her eyes. It’s absolutely true.
Lemon said that it was “interesting” that Markle and Carey had gone through a similar ordeal and he recalled when the singer first rose to fame in the 1990s. He remarked, “People didn’t know what to do with her.”
She mentions on their podcast that even others don’t know how to style her hair.
He noted that the individuals in charge of her, who were attempting to promote her as an artist, “didn’t really know how to sell her.”
“Are they promoting her as a black woman?” Is she promoted as a mixed-race woman? As a white lady, do they or not? They were genuinely ill-equipped to handle it.
So, I believe this podcast is eye-opening, and I applaud Meghan Markle for listening to it, even if it is a little surprising that, at the age of around 30, she is just now beginning to comprehend what it’s like to be a black woman in America. It surprises me a little bit,’ Lemon said.
The episode, titled “The Duality of Diva,” explores being a diva and being of mixed racial descent.
The title of this week’s show, “The Duality of Diva,” was inspired by Meghan herself being referred to as a Diva by Carey.
The duchess said that she first went into “silent rebellion” after hearing the remark before recognising it was a remark.
Carey admits that Meghan sometimes has “diva moments” at one point.
It’s crucial for folks to keep in mind that Meghan may have a persona or diva character that we may play into. I don’t relate to it, yet for you, it has played a significant role.
You sometimes give us diva moments, Meghan, Carey said. Don’t even pretend to be.
What type of diva moments do I offer you, Meghan retorted.
Don’t behave like you, Carey said, “It’s also the image.”
Oh, it’s the appearance, Meghan retorted.
Meghan said why she “sweated” when Carey dubbed her a diva in the podcast’s voiceover and defended Carey’s comments.
I sort of believe she could sense that my fangirling was restrained today, but other than that, everything was going well. I don’t know about you, but the time she labelled me a diva stopped me in my tracks. I mean extremely well up until that point.
You certainly couldn’t see me, but I began to perspire a little and to wriggle in my chair in a subdued protest. what, like, wait? Oh, what? How could you? That is untrue. Why do you think that is? What drivel she must have read or clicked on to get her to say that had my head really whirling.
Markle, whose black mother Doria and white father Thomas are split, said that when Carey first entered the music industry, she first thought, “Oh my god. Someone that resembles me.
She’s mixed like me,” she said, adding that she was the star’s “fangirl.” She said on the podcast that before she married Prince Harry, she “did not have to deal with prejudice” (pictured in 2018)
I couldn’t help but wonder whether my female infatuation was about to die suddenly. Does she not notice me at all?
She must have seen my trembling laughter because she stepped right in to make sure I was understood, and you all would have too.
When she used the term “diva,” she was referring to the way I dress, the way my clothes hang, and, in her opinion, my fabulousness.
She used the term diva to flatter. I took that as a jab. Thought of it as the term “diva,” she wanted it to be fashionable and aspirational at the time, as she described to me.
Following Meghan’s assertion that she didn’t want her children photographed due to bigotry, Mariah and Meghan started talking about being mixed-race.
Why would I share a picture of my kid with the same individuals who are calling my children the N-word before I can share it with the ones who adore my child, she questioned? I’ll play that game when you explain to me why it makes sense.
Mariah Carey spoke to Meghan about her upbringing on the podcast, stating, “I didn’t fit in. It would be more of the black side of town, or you could be where my mom decided to live, where the whiter areas and I didn’t fit in anyplace at all.”
Yes, Meghan retorted. I recognise that.
Carey recalled being made fun of by a guy at school for only owning three clothes and switching them around, adding, “It was real.”
“In a world where you’re the mixed child in a full-on white neighbourhood that’s what you get,” the singer said.
The duchess responds, “This is part of why I had to speak to you while I was putting this discussion together.” I had to speak to you, of course. You helped shape who I am now. Representation is crucial.
The Duchess of Sussex and Mariah Carey exchanged anecdotes about how they handled their hair when they were younger.
Because my mum is black, and because my hair is so thick and curly, Meghan mentioned on the podcast that when she was doing my hair as a youngster, her grandmother Jeanette would say, “Just hang onto the sink.”
You wouldn’t have the luxury of being tender-headed because she would grab the brush and go whoosh, whoosh, so I would hold my small hands on both sides.
Having the name The Duality Of Diva Meghan discussed the “complexities around the “diva”” and the “negative connotations linked with the name” with music icon Mariah Carey.
I’m MC; you can call me Mimi or Mariah, anything you like, Carey says to Meghan. Cha Cha and Muttley P Gore Jackson were the names of Carey’s dogs, which the duchess enquired about to start the discussion.
She used the first episode of Archetypes with Serena last Tuesday to subtly criticise life in the Royal Family. She also described her fear when, while on a trip to South Africa, a little “fire” started in her son Archie’s room.
The four-month-old was not there when a heater started to smoke, but the duchess described herself as “shaken” and “in tears” when it happened. She said that despite her displeasure, she was compelled to continue the couple’s formal commitments.
The Duchess of Sussex seemed to take a number of jabs at the royal family in a 6,400-word magazine piece published on Monday to promote the podcast, warning that she could “say anything” now that she had left the Firm.
Meghan, 41, even made the claim that Prince Harry felt like he had “lost” his father because of his choice to resign from his public position.
The duchess, however, was really alluding to the collapse of her relationship with her own father, according to an astonishing explanation provided by the couple’s friends last night.
Harry reportedly confessed to Meghan, “I lost my dad in this process,” according to The Cut magazine.
Although he has the option, it need not be the same for them as it was for me.
The Prince of Wales loves both his sons, according to a source close to Prince Charles, who also said that he would be grieved if Harry thought their bond was lost.
Harry, 37, took his own dig at the royals, saying: “Most people that I know and many of my relatives, they aren’t able to work and live together.”
Meghan said that the pair felt compelled to leave Britain because “simply by existing, we were disrupting the dynamic of the hierarchy.”
The duchess also said that a cast member from South Africa who was performing in the West End production of The Lion King had said to her: “When you married into this family, we cheered in the streets much like we did when Mandela was released from jail.”